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Too Many 'b's And 'c's; Not Enough 'A's
Topic Started: Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM (581 Views)
bluemood
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On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership - which has to be McCleish's [and the Board's] medium term aim if we can survive this season [which we will at the expense of Bolton]:

Category A Players [capable of competing in the top flight]

Murphy
Larsson
Muamba
McFadden

Category B Players [destined for ever to fight for survival]

Kelly [no creativity going forward]
Ridgewell
Nafti
Kapo [too lazy]
Forssell
Parnaby
De Ridder
Zarate [unproven]

[c] Category C Players [only good enough for the Championship]

Taylor
Doyle
Jaidi
Taylor
Scmidt
Quedrue
Johnson
McSheffrey
Jerome
O'Connor

:Blues:
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elvis ok
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership -

As you say - by your reckoning.

Any evidence of your qualifications, genius or nous ?

Thought not

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TJDIXI
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We're doomed dommed i tell ya!

C'mon. Why do we have to tear apart the squad after every bad result and catergorise everyone for ever more. Can we not accept that we have a squad a players with varying strengths some that compliment others and some that don't. We are at the bottom for a good few reasons and they would be the same as the rest of the teams down with us. If we had a squad full of 'category A' players would we be beating the likes of Chesea and Man U week in week out or would we be flattering to decieve like the rest of the teams in the division. It really doesn't matter what catergory of players we have to our side but that we have the right players to play to the position that we find ourselves in. It's a team/squad not a collection of top trump cards.
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lowdham bluenose
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There's one or two Category D players in your C list.


As for the B list.

Kapo can have his "laziness" coached out of him.
Forsell is bit by bit coming back.
Nafti is Premier class (only my opinion, of course)
Zarate has the potential and will prove himself
Kelly is just about Premier class (again just my opinion)
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership - which has to be McCleish's [and the Board's] medium term aim if we can survive this season [which we will at the expense of Bolton]:

Category A Players [capable of competing in the top flight]

Murphy
Larsson
Muamba
McFadden

Category B Players [destined for ever to fight for survival]

Kelly [no creativity going forward]
Ridgewell
Nafti
Kapo [too lazy]
Forssell
Parnaby
De Ridder
Zarate [unproven]

[c] Category C Players [only good enough for the Championship]

Taylor
Doyle
Jaidi
Taylor
Scmidt
Quedrue
Johnson
McSheffrey
Jerome
O'Connor

:Blues:

Nice constructive post ,well done :applause:
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bluemood
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elvis ok
Mar 25 2008, 04:42 PM
bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership -

As you say - by your reckoning.

Any evidence of your qualifications, genius or nous ?

Thought not

...first CEO in football to appoint David Moyes as Manager...is that sufficient credentials for you ???

...not that it should matter anyway...surely this board is about opinions...or should we stick purely to facts...sounds mighty dull to me !!!
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blueblood
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 06:08 PM
elvis ok
Mar 25 2008, 04:42 PM
bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership -

As you say - by your reckoning.

Any evidence of your qualifications, genius or nous ?

Thought not

...first CEO in football to appoint David Moyes as Manager...is that sufficient credentials for you ???

...not that it should matter anyway...surely this board is about opinions...or should we stick purely to facts...sounds mighty dull to me !!!

So you gave David Moyes the Job at Preson North End?
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lowdham bluenose
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blueblood
Mar 25 2008, 05:15 PM
bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 06:08 PM
elvis ok
Mar 25 2008, 04:42 PM
bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership -

As you say - by your reckoning.

Any evidence of your qualifications, genius or nous ?

Thought not

...first CEO in football to appoint David Moyes as Manager...is that sufficient credentials for you ???

...not that it should matter anyway...surely this board is about opinions...or should we stick purely to facts...sounds mighty dull to me !!!

So you gave David Moyes the Job at Preson North End?

I think he may have done. It's not the first time Bluemood has made the statement regarding first to take on David Moyes. He never mentions PNE but I think that is Moyes' only club as manager.
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wardendbluenose
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The thing is with some of the 'cat B' players, is that most of them are young, and have age on their side. Plenty of time to improve their game, they are great to have in your squad and build around them.

I'm positive that all of them are capable of competing in the Prem, they have the potential, we just need the time.
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bluemood
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...Jan 97 at PNE...left in 99 after difference of opinion with current Chairman, Derek Shaw...we all have to do something for a living !!!

doesn't make my opinions any more or any less valid than every other supporter who follows the Blues passionately [as i have done since 1973]...

...I know I shouldn't rise to the bait and feel the need to have to justify my views...but it winds me up big time when a$$oles such as that Elvis guy are only intersted in personal remarks...
soz
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blueblood
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 06:35 PM
...Jan 97 at PNE...left in 99 after difference of opinion with current Chairman, Derek Shaw...we all have to do something for a living !!!

doesn't make my opinions any more or any less valid than every other supporter who follows the Blues passionately [as i have done since 1973]...

...I know I shouldn't rise to the bait and feel the need to have to justify my views...but it winds me up big time when a$$oles such as that Elvis guy are only intersted in personal remarks...
soz
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It could be worse though,

think how much further down the alphabet you would have to go if you were still at PNE. **thumbup
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 05:35 PM
...Jan 97 at PNE...left in 99 after difference of opinion with current Chairman, Derek Shaw...we all have to do something for a living !!!

doesn't make my opinions any more or any less valid than every other supporter who follows the Blues passionately [as i have done since 1973]...

...I know I shouldn't rise to the bait and feel the need to have to justify my views...but it winds me up big time when a$$oles such as that Elvis guy are only intersted in personal remarks...
soz
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Your remarks couldn't be more personall could they?

Anyone who attacks blues can expect to be repelled man.

And you are right, your opinions do not count for anymore than anyone else's. Its all opinion - as I was pointing out.

Just don't see your arrogance as being evidenced by fact yet.

Chill man. :LMAO:

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lowdham bluenose
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 05:35 PM
......I know I shouldn't rise to the bait and feel the need to have to justify my views...but it winds me up big time when a$$oles such as that Elvis guy are only intersted in personal remarks...
soz
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I know what you mean, 3 minutes before his post responding to you he did a similar response to me on my thread.

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lowdham bluenose
Mar 25 2008, 05:42 PM
bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 05:35 PM
......I know I shouldn't rise to the bait and feel the need to have to justify my views...but it winds me up big time when a$$oles such as that Elvis guy are only intersted in personal remarks...
soz
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I know what you mean, 3 minutes before his post responding to you he did a similar response to me on my thread.

And I've done another man.

:LMAO:

Look.

If you want to name and slag off players, go on another board.

If you want to be constructive and positive, try debate and not fantasy.

**thumbup
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thehawk
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Here is a constructive comment (I hope).

The younger players can be coached if you have a belief in McLeish as a manager. Many criticised Bruce for not improving players. If McLEish is the right man for the job, then the hope is that he can take a pool of players and improve them. He seems to have done this a bit as Muamba and Larsson seem to have improved.
If McLeish is not able to do this, then we have the wrong man in the job - as we will never be able to afford "finished products", we will only ever be able to buy cheaper players and improve them. David Moyes seems able to do this, so to Mark Hughes - how much better have the likes of Lescott, Bentley, Cahill and Devonshire become.
So the question becomes - do we think McLeish capable of doing this? (my opinion, for what it is worth, is yes, I think he can) feed.back
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Cutz
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Kapo, Zarate, Deridder - Grade B, dont make me laugh.
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Blueming
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Mar 25 2008, 08:11 PM
Here is a constructive comment (I hope).

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So the question becomes - do we think McLeish capable of doing this? (my opinion, for what it is worth, is yes, I think he can) feed.back

Hope he doesnt have to proove it in the co-co league :angel:
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As you say, too many B's and C's... Birmingham City

Not enough A's... Arston Vile... that's the way I like it **thumbup

in fact when i first read your post I was very suspicious...
would you agree with me that Arston Vilers
are inbred inward-looking knuckle draggers?
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thehawk
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see, you make constructive comments and get nothing back.
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thehawk
Mar 25 2008, 07:11 PM
Here is a constructive comment (I hope).

The younger players can be coached if you have a belief in McLeish as a manager.  Many criticised Bruce for not improving players.  If McLEish is the right man for the job, then the hope is that he can take a pool of players and improve them. He seems to have done this a bit as Muamba and Larsson seem to have improved. 
If McLeish is not able to do this, then we have the wrong man in the job - as we will never be able to afford "finished products", we will only ever be able to buy cheaper players and improve them.  David Moyes seems able to do this, so to Mark Hughes - how much better have the likes of Lescott, Bentley, Cahill and Devonshire become. 
So the question becomes - do we think McLeish capable of doing this?  (my opinion, for what it is worth, is yes, I think he can) feed.back

:applause:


We have no reason to doubt him

I won't judge him until he has a full season with his own players. I just hope its in the prem
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elvis ok
Mar 25 2008, 04:42 PM
bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership -

As you say - by your reckoning.

Any evidence of your qualifications, genius or nous ?

Thought not

Why don't you give us your qualifications as well then?
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Reddiblue Jnr
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Mar 25 2008, 07:11 PM
Here is a constructive comment (I hope).

The younger players can be coached if you have a belief in McLeish as a manager. Many criticised Bruce for not improving players. If McLEish is the right man for the job, then the hope is that he can take a pool of players and improve them. He seems to have done this a bit as Muamba and Larsson seem to have improved.
If McLeish is not able to do this, then we have the wrong man in the job - as we will never be able to afford "finished products", we will only ever be able to buy cheaper players and improve them. David Moyes seems able to do this, so to Mark Hughes - how much better have the likes of Lescott, Bentley, Cahill and Devonshire become.
So the question becomes - do we think McLeish capable of doing this? (my opinion, for what it is worth, is yes, I think he can) feed.back

I think alex mcleish can make our players better and we can already see that with larsson muamba and forssell. We can see what he did at his previous clubs that he is a great manager and can make our players better. We also know he can bring in some new players which are really good and have some quality. We can see this with mcfadden who seems to be scoring goals and zarate whos scored one and looks like he may score more with the runs he's been having.



feed.back
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM
On my reckoning, Blues have only got 4 players in the current squad capable of competing for a top ten place in the Premiership - which has to be McCleish's [and the Board's] medium term aim if we can survive this season [which we will at the expense of Bolton]:

Category A Players [capable of competing in the top flight]

Murphy
Larsson
Muamba
McFadden

Category B Players [destined for ever to fight for survival]

Kelly [no creativity going forward]
Ridgewell
Nafti
Kapo [too lazy]
Forssell
Parnaby
De Ridder
Zarate [unproven]

[c] Category C Players [only good enough for the Championship]

Taylor
Doyle
Jaidi
Taylor
Scmidt
Quedrue
Johnson
McSheffrey
Jerome
O'Connor

:Blues:

I think you live in a fantasy land and maybe you should open your eyes to what goes on on the playing field.

How you can rate muamba as a 'class A' player and then Kelly as a 'class B' is beyond me.

And then to say Kapo and Forssel are both 'class B' too is ridiculous. Then to lump Jerome, Johnson and Maik Taylor as Championship class and no more defies logic if you ask me.

Are you sure you are a blues supporter?

We all know we have stronger players than others, as does every other team in the world.

We also know that if we are survive in the prem next season ( avoiding relegation this time of course ) then changes will have to be made but to label all of our players is not only childish but it is negative in the upmost.

In fact I would say it's the opposite of support....
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lowdham bluenose
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Mar 26 2008, 10:17 AM
Then to lump Jerome, Johnson and Maik Taylor as Championship class and no more defies logic if you ask me.

Are you sure you are a blues supporter?


I think Johnson and Taylor are Championship players, am I not a Blues fan either?


What a Dictatorship. You must rate our entire playing staff otherwise you will be banished from the club.
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bluemood
Mar 25 2008, 05:31 PM
Category B Players [destined for ever to fight for survival]

Kelly [no creativity going forward]
Ridgewell
Nafti
Kapo [too lazy]
Forssell
Parnaby
De Ridder
Zarate [unproven]

[c] Category C Players [only good enough for the Championship]

Taylor
Doyle
Jaidi
Taylor
Scmidt
Quedrue
Johnson
McSheffrey
Jerome
O'Connor

:Blues:

Kelly is Prem quality imo
Nafti is Prem quality imo
Kapo is Prem quality imo
Forssell is Prem quality imo
Parnaby is Prem quality imo WHEN played in his real position, NOT on the right wing
DJ is prem quality imo


And then there are the likes of De Ridder, Jerome, and Doyle who we can't really make a judgement on..yet.

Chin up son, it isnt THAT bad! :Blues:
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